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- 00:10 Xopar: here are tabs xD
- 00:10 AmazingAmpharos: Yeah, the core I've been using is items/shops/keys/partners in the shuffle
- 00:10 AmazingAmpharos: But not coins/panels/dojo
- 00:10 Xopar: yeah it all looks good to me
- 00:11 AmazingAmpharos: The starting coin total (125) I pulled out of my rear end
- 00:11 AmazingAmpharos: If you care for a different number, it's whatever to me
- 00:11 Xopar: it all looks good to me tbh
- 00:14 Xopar: btw.... thanks for making zootr lol, best game in the world
- 00:16 AmazingAmpharos: I'm glad you enjoy it. Of course, it's one of those "magic of open source" games that has grown far beyond what I could have done on my own.
- 00:17 Xopar: yeahhh its actually ridiculous now
- 00:17 AmazingAmpharos: I'm getting a sense no one else wants to play. It's too bad; early evening is way easier than mid-Sunday afternoon.
- 00:18 Xopar: tbh, i would say its probably because there was no ping (idk if theres even a role to ping? maybe we can ask about making one) and it was semi-late notice
- 00:18 AmazingAmpharos: Either way, just rolled a seed
- 00:18 AmazingAmpharos: https://pm64randomizer.com/seed?id=3349848529
- 00:18 AmazingAmpharos: I guess there's a spoiler log; please don't use it
- 00:19 retronika: What is the standard ruleset for this game?
- 00:19 Xopar: of course, you dont have to tell me =X
- 00:19 retronika: Save all 7 Star Spirits I assume?
- 00:19 Xopar: i have no idea what standard is lol
- 00:19 AmazingAmpharos: (I left spoiler log on by accident but with a small race seems fine?)
- 00:19 Xopar: i assume just glitchless?
- 00:19 AmazingAmpharos: The game ends after defeating final Bowser (which requires the 7 star spirits) but things aren't well standardized at this point
- 00:20 retronika: ~~Things aren't well randomized either.~~
- 00:20 retronika: I wish here had strikethrough
- 00:20 retronika: ol
- 00:20 retronika: lol
- 00:20 AmazingAmpharos: I don't really know any glitches other than a few ways to make the game lag to my own disadvantage so from my end that rules question is kinda moot
- 00:21 retronika: I see.
- 00:21 AmazingAmpharos: I know a lot of crazy clips exist
- 00:21 retronika: glhf you two
- 00:21 Xopar: youre welcome to join
- 00:21 retronika: I'm in class.
- 00:21 AmazingAmpharos: I don't think people have gone through the trouble of defining what's allowed yet
- 00:21 Xopar: that would make it more difficult haha
- 00:21 retronika: And I have sooooo many issues with this randomizer generally.
- 00:22 AmazingAmpharos: It's basically in alpha
- 00:22 retronika: Like how there is no minor/major/partner item shuffle
- 00:22 retronika: Which is my biggest gripe
- 00:22 Xopar: what?
- 00:22 retronika: Minor items, key items and partners share the one and the same item pool.
- 00:23 retronika: And there is no toggle for that.
- 00:23 Xopar: oh, lol
- 00:23 retronika: It's just how it is.
- 00:23 AmazingAmpharos: See, I play Zelda randos mostly, and this rando having 265 checks feels... about right?
- 00:23 Xopar: well that seems kinda awful lol
- 00:23 AmazingAmpharos: The mid-200s is what lttp and OoT both are
- 00:23 AmazingAmpharos: Definitely a preference thing
- 00:23 Xopar: as an oot RSL main, 200 LUL
- 00:23 retronika: I play OoTR, MMR and ALttPR and just not having a toggle for this stuff generally annoys me
- 00:24 AmazingAmpharos: I do really dislike the forward fill and its implications, but I know that's a work in progress so I try not to be critical about the lopsided distribution
- 00:24 Xopar: they use forward fill for this?
- 00:24 AmazingAmpharos: Yes
- 00:24 AmazingAmpharos: I think assumed fill is on the todo list
- 00:24 AmazingAmpharos: I guess forward fill was just easier to release with
- 00:24 AmazingAmpharos: Which, you know, fair enough; it's really easy
- 00:24 Xopar: probably
- 00:25 AmazingAmpharos: But that's why you see more than half the partners at the start so often
- 00:25 AmazingAmpharos: As well as an uncanny smattering of lategame progression items like crystal palace key or whatever that you'd expect to troll way more
- 00:25 Xopar: the biggest thing for me is unshuffled hammer and boots
- 00:25 AmazingAmpharos: There's some politics going on in the dev team on that point I can tell
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: Since with everything else they're super open
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: But they really just don't want to talk about that
- 00:26 Xopar: yeah it defeinitly seemed that way when i brought it up during the alpha seeds
- 00:26 Xopar: i cant imagien this rando standing up over time without it though
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: Someone has a vision of how this should play and that's some weird red line for them
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: To be honest, given that this is mostly open source, I expect sooner or later that decision is going to be taken from them anyway
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: So I'm not stressing it
- 00:26 AmazingAmpharos: It will get sorted out with time
- 00:27 Xopar: yeah thats what im assuming
- 00:28 AmazingAmpharos: Them always being in the same place would feel less bad if the Ultra Boots chest weren't so horrible
- 00:28 AmazingAmpharos: But you have to have everything else to get to that one almost all of the time
- 00:28 AmazingAmpharos: So it's... limiting
- 00:35 Xopar is ready! (1 remaining)
- 00:36 AmazingAmpharos: Well good luck, see you on the other side
- 00:36 AmazingAmpharos#6076 is ready! (0 remaining)
- 00:36 Everyone is ready. The race will begin in 15 seconds!
- 00:36 Xopar: gl hf!
- 00:36 The race has begun! Good luck and have fun.
- 02:33 Xopar: LUL im stuck
- 02:34 Xopar: stuck 45 mins, finally mention it, realize im an idiot 30s later lol
- 04:36 AmazingAmpharos#6076 has finished in 1st place with a time of 3:59:40!
- 04:36 Xopar: gg!
- 04:37 AmazingAmpharos: Thanks
- 04:37 AmazingAmpharos: I had 8:29 of tech issues (calculated only now) at the start of the race, was kinda freaking out
- 07:38 Xopar has finished in 2nd place with a time of 7:01:29!
- 07:38 Race finished in 7:01:29.8
- 07:39 Xopar added a comment.
- 00:13 Xopar: !log
- 00:13 Xopar: /log
- 00:13 Xopar: Sadge
- 00:13 Xopar: !chatlog
- 00:13 Xopar: extra Sadge =(
- 00:13 Xopar: the settings string scrolled up too far lol
- 04:34 Race result recorded by mx4#1728
