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- 16:25 paf: oh no you must have
- 16:25 paf: you get morph and speed there
- 16:25 BlackBambix: yeah .. i dipped WS but thats all
- 16:25 paf: i skipped xray which was a really stupid mistake
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: speed?
- 16:25 BlackBambix: never explored it
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: ohh up there
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: didn't get that
- 16:25 paf: oh i guess speed wasnt required
- 16:25 paf: wait
- 16:25 paf: you guys went down
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: i got morph and bombs then dipped
- 16:25 paf: the one way
- 16:25 paf: and the only way back was dachora room
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: yup lmao
- 16:25 paf: thats so risky
- 16:25 paf: LOL
- 16:25 TechnoWaffle36: i had a save
- 16:25 paf: turned out fine
- 16:26 TechnoWaffle36: technically the wrap around through fish tank and spore spawn would work
- 16:26 paf: oh true
- 16:26 TechnoWaffle36: but it is blind so we wouldn't have known
- 16:27 TechnoWaffle36: maridia was completely useless
- 16:27 paf: idk. that seems crazy to me, since that means you havent explored eveyrthing else so you cant know for sure the answer is beyond there
- 16:27 paf: but i guess if you were trying really hard to sac for map or something
- 16:27 paf: then it makes more sense
- 16:27 TechnoWaffle36: yeah i was ready to reset once i had the map
- 16:27 paf: i see i see
- 16:27 TechnoWaffle36: back to the green brin save
- 16:28 TechnoWaffle36: bt major was screw
- 16:28 TechnoWaffle36: so wheres ice
- 16:28 BlackBambix: thats the reason i falled that much behind .. i explored narfair. after getting 3 etanks i went for the map
- 16:28 paf: top of bowling in brin
- 16:28 paf: ahh i see
- 16:28 TechnoWaffle36: ohhhh
- 16:28 paf: i got grav and went up main street immediately
- 16:28 BlackBambix: i had to gampe much more haha XD
- 16:28 paf: and then speed kinda tells you to go down dachora
- 16:29 paf: imo
- 16:29 TechnoWaffle36: yeah thats definitely the play
- 16:29 TechnoWaffle36: i never thought to go back up
- 16:29 TechnoWaffle36: oh
- 16:29 paf: but i did also get the norfair reserve major immediately so i knew that wasnt anything
- 16:29 TechnoWaffle36: wait no i remember why i did it
- 16:29 BlackBambix: but after dachora there was botwnn XD
- 16:29 BlackBambix: botwoon
- 16:29 paf: yeah, but with wave from norfair reserve its fine
- 16:29 TechnoWaffle36: i had no PBs to get back up green brin shaft from the bottom after getting grav KEKW
- 16:29 paf: but if you didnt get it when you were over there, it would really suck
- 16:29 paf: i guess you can look at the map and tell
- 16:30 paf: that the one way connects to the front side of botwoon so its not so bad?
- 16:30 BlackBambix: is it in logic with just 1 etank? (norfair reserve9
- 16:30 paf: no
- 16:30 BlackBambix: i thinks its 2 etanks
- 16:30 paf: i totally botched the room and barely made it out, even with the etank refill
- 16:30 TechnoWaffle36: yeah i didn't like it
- 16:30 paf: hate that room
- 16:30 TechnoWaffle36: died multiple times
- 16:30 paf: i really should practice it
- 16:30 BlackBambix: damn gamblers .. waffle did it too
- 16:30 BlackBambix: XD
- 16:30 paf: comes up multiple times
- 16:30 paf: lol
- 16:30 paf: i mean i was content with resetting at that point, i think
- 16:30 paf: i just wanted to see what it was. then saw it was a major so
- 16:31 BlackBambix: and luckily there was an etank too .. ^^
- 16:31 TechnoWaffle36: very lucky
- 16:31 paf: yeah. but if i didnt see any major you can turn around halfway through and its not that bad, specially with a tank
- 16:31 BlackBambix: im annyed now .. wtf :D
- 16:32 TechnoWaffle36: wait, wave it the final step?
- 16:32 TechnoWaffle36: is*
- 16:32 BlackBambix: i have to practice that room
- 16:32 paf: i guess i was thinking that i never wanted to come back here since its kinda removed, so i really should check to make sure its nothing
- 16:32 paf: and honestly wave wasnt that impactful at the end of the day
- 16:32 paf: you can still go down the maridia green gate one way and just kill botwoon from the front if you need to get back up with speed
- 16:32 paf: the tank was nice tho, i will say
- 16:33 BlackBambix: but timesaving .. i had to turn around after finding botwoon
- 16:33 BlackBambix: yep .. that one made it much easier for u guys
- 16:33 paf: valuing tanks in this patch seems like a good idea
- 16:33 BlackBambix: i just had 1 etank fpor the heatrooms
- 16:33 paf: yeah that sucks
- 16:34 paf: there were several refills at least, on the way to N map
- 16:34 TechnoWaffle36: yeah
- 16:34 BlackBambix: i didnt want to take the risk ^^
- 16:34 TechnoWaffle36: and with wave, getting through the pre-lava dive gate was easy
- 16:35 TechnoWaffle36: idk what the actual room name is
- 16:35 paf: i can see how not seeing speed booster does lead you to explore other parts of N though
- 16:35 paf: kronic boost?
- 16:35 paf: pre-lava dive
- 16:35 TechnoWaffle36: yep
- 16:35 BlackBambix: I should have gone back after I found the save room in big pink
- 16:35 TechnoWaffle36: i don't think i went down there
- 16:36 BlackBambix: i took the risk and fell down spore spawn super room ^^
- 16:36 TechnoWaffle36: yeah i chose not to do that
- 16:37 BlackBambix: ok .. im done with discuss that seed .. anyone up for a vanille map very hard seed?
- 16:37 TechnoWaffle36: yeah that was fun last time, i'm down
- 16:38 BlackBambix: ok i´m going to make a room
- 16:38 paf: reposting the seed for any asyncers
- 16:38 paf: https://maprando.com/seed/GvjJ5KbzQ/
- 18:41 Race result recorded by Osse101#7408