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- 21:18 Skyy: which one?
- 21:18 BlackBambix: spike suit
- 21:19 Skyy: oh, I"m wondering where you need it
- 21:19 FuwwetUwU: its never in logic
- 21:19 FuwwetUwU: but can get you out of bad situations
- 21:19 BlackBambix: thats what i want to say ;)
- 21:20 caauyjdp: i got bombs..
- 21:20 Skyy: norfair?
- 21:20 caauyjdp: brin
- 21:21 caauyjdp: not in logic
- 21:21 Skyy: yeah
- 21:21 Skyy: ok, so that's where the spike suit get's you
- 21:21 BlackBambix: i thought the same
- 21:22 Skyy: norfair has a lot accessible, but lot's of heat, and not much farming
- 21:22 BlackBambix: im running out of options guys xD
- 21:29 Skyy: ok, got charge beam..but doesn't help with a whole lot lol
- 21:30 BlackBambix: i got it 2 min before XD now im looking at the map questoining what i can do now
- 21:34 BlackBambix: and I'm still staring
- 21:34 BlackBambix: no idea what to do
- 21:35 BlackBambix: x-ray would be nice ^^
- 21:39 caauyjdp: just found it >.>
- 21:48 BlackBambix: how does the spike suit work? it is unmorphing the same frame as u take damg, isnt it?
- 21:48 BlackBambix: dmg
- 21:49 Skyy: I just time it with a very quick double tap of jump, you have to do it when samus is in the crouch pose of unmorphing
- 21:49 Skyy: but the first tap to unmorph has to be the same frame (i think) that you take damage while morphed
- 21:50 BlackBambix: ok.. thanks for the explanation
- 21:50 FuwwetUwU: something like that but theres some variation with the frames
- 21:50 FuwwetUwU: oats got a video on it
- 21:54 Skyy: so it seems like breaking logic for bombs is the only way, I can't think of anywhere else I can possibly go to get pbs
- 21:54 BlackBambix: thats the reason i am learning spike suits now ^^
- 21:57 Skyy: so the question is where to get the suit, pre-xray? lol
- 21:57 Skyy: oh, fire flea's would be easy
- 21:58 BlackBambix: thats the place
- 21:58 BlackBambix: xray i think
- 21:58 Skyy: getting through pre-xray and keeping it I think would be tough
- 21:58 BlackBambix: i dont knwo how it feels like to keep it ^^ :D
- 21:58 Skyy: that's the tricky part sometimes
- 21:59 caauyjdp: i got it on left side and used first spark to get up
- 22:00 FuwwetUwU: you guys already tried the pirate shaft items?
- 22:01 Skyy: long time ago yeah
- 22:01 Skyy: that was my first though
- 22:01 FuwwetUwU: not gonna waste my time on that then
- 22:03 Skyy: ok yeah, getting there from fire flea's was pretty easy, just gotta get to the ledge to make the jump
- 22:03 Skyy: I didn't even need to get to reserves
- 22:06 FuwwetUwU: where do you guys even use the spikesuits
- 22:06 BlackBambix: ´brin left major
- 22:07 Skyy: gauntlet in brin
- 22:09 caauyjdp#5547 has finished in 1st place with a time of 2:35:54!
- 22:09 Skyy: ggs
- 22:09 FuwwetUwU: gg
- 22:09 caauyjdp: i would guess something is buggy
- 22:09 Skyy: can you open the spoiler? I'm out of time anyway
- 22:09 Skyy#7198 has forfeited from the race.
- 22:10 FuwwetUwU: idk if I can do a spikesuit on keyboard tbh
- 22:10 BlackBambix: í done with that one too
- 22:10 BlackBambix#4915 has finished in 2nd place with a time of 2:37:04!
- 22:10 Skyy: instead of doubletap jump, you can hit up then jump
- 22:10 BlackBambix#4915 is no longer done.
- 22:10 BlackBambix#4915 has forfeited from the race.
- 22:10 caauyjdp: i do it with up jump
- 22:10 Skyy: hitting two keys might be easier
- 22:11 FuwwetUwU: Id do it on controller but not like this
- 22:11 Skyy: I use controller, double tap for me works easier
- 22:11 Skyy: personal preference I'm sure
- 22:11 FuwwetUwU: my snes got fried yesterday
- 22:11 FuwwetUwU: so im not playing on the platform of choice
- 22:11 Skyy: I usually unequip springball if I have it for that reason since you won't unmorph with jump if you have it on
- 22:11 Skyy: that stinks
- 22:12 FuwwetUwU: ill open spoiler
- 22:12 Skyy: but please do unlock spoiler when you get a sec. ggs, I'm out. Catch you for the next one
- 22:13 Skyy: holy hell, bombs were logical, but carrying the suit through the bug hole lmao
- 22:14 BlackBambix: wait what?
- 22:14 BlackBambix: wtf
- 22:15 caauyjdp: oh, that runway
- 22:15 Skyy: https://dev.maprando.com/logic/room/180/3/2/31
- 22:15 caauyjdp: that's neat
- 22:15 Skyy: yeah
- 22:15 Skyy: now that I think of it, totally doable
- 22:15 Skyy: could even pre-open the door, jumping up through the bug whole isn't too hard to do
- 22:15 caauyjdp: just didn't think it was in logic to rjump to get back out
- 22:16 Skyy: rjump?
- 22:16 caauyjdp: oh, Strat: MidAir Morph with Gravity
- 22:16 caauyjdp: not rjump
- 22:16 BlackBambix: noway .. what an easy way to do it .. didnt think about the option :/
- 22:16 Skyy: lol, good learning
- 22:16 caauyjdp: glad theres still things to learn
- 22:17 caauyjdp: gnight
- 22:18 BlackBambix: wtf .. im in the parctice rom now and got a spike suit instantly in drays room
- 22:18 FuwwetUwU: means I can still finish this one
- 22:28 BlackBambix: ok .. i can do a spikesuit now .. ty for rolling this seed fuwwet
- 22:35 FuwwetUwU: learned something new
- 22:35 FuwwetUwU: nice
- 22:41 FuwwetUwU#4232 has forfeited from the race.
- 22:41 Race finished in 3:08:37.4
- 23:38 Skyy: I'm struggling to see how this is in very hard, you have practically no time to get through the whole with the charged spark
- 23:39 BlackBambix: i tried it and have no issues with it
- 23:40 Skyy: the only way I can get it, is it I pre-open the door, then charge the spark right to left, then run back to the right and mockball through the whole
- 23:41 BlackBambix: I do everything exactly the same except for the mock ball
- 23:41 Skyy: the mockball nicely places you on that second platform if you hit it right
- 23:41 BlackBambix: i just morph normal to go through the hole
