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- 19:09 Race finished in 2:01:13.3
- 19:09 Frostbite3030: I finished, don't want to run the credits lol
- 19:10 Telethar: haha np
- 19:10 Telethar: yeah I pulled you up at the end
- 19:10 Frostbite3030: died to kholdstare, should have forfeited right there since there is zero chance to recover from that
- 19:10 Frostbite3030: you hadn't finished when i went into aga tower
- 19:10 Telethar: ah :(
- 19:10 Telethar: aga after GT I assume?
- 19:11 Frostbite3030: yeah
- 19:11 Frostbite3030: i dipped aga with 1 key
- 19:11 Telethar: yeah same
- 19:11 Frostbite3030: last located fire rod
- 19:11 Frostbite3030: played horrible
- 19:11 Telethar: also same on FR
- 19:11 Frostbite3030: i bet i lost 5 minutes between dying to khold and having 2 dogshit khold fights
- 19:11 Telethar: felt like my route was clean to full clear
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: mine wasn't
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: double ep
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: last locate glove except dp
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: than last locate whatever what was at powder
- 19:12 Telethar: double dipped DP, mire, tr, sw but those are pretty much unavoidable
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: where was powder
- 19:12 Telethar: powder was on mountain I believe
- 19:12 Frostbite3030: i think you could have avoided double tr
- 19:13 Telethar: no
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: nah
- 19:13 Telethar: mire bk
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: i last located tr
- 19:13 Telethar: let me verify powder, but pretty sure it was mountain double dip required
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: what did that block
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: yeah double mountain isnt same as double tr
- 19:13 Telethar: firerod was on GP
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: oh thats right so it was required
- 19:13 Frostbite3030: i was pretty sure i last located tr
- 19:14 Telethar: powder was in superbunny
- 19:14 Telethar: TR big on powder
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: yeah i had tr big before tr
- 19:14 Telethar: mire big on laser bridge
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: it was mire
- 19:14 Telethar: quake in mire
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: honestly, i was watching tv form when i died to khold, so i have zero clue what happened in the end of that seed
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: i almost forfeited
- 19:14 Telethar: F
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: i stayed on the restart screen for al ong time
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: against the guy i played lats week
- 19:14 Frostbite3030: sure i can still win
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: i cant win against you with like a legit 3 minute time loss in there
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: these seeds are too linear
- 19:15 Telethar: yeah not on a seed like this
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: every seed of this flags is like this
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: there are two types
- 19:15 Telethar: I mean maybe if you played aggressive and skipped hera basement, LSS, and cutscene chest
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: the super fast ones that take like 130-140
- 19:15 Telethar: and just pray
- 19:15 Frostbite3030: cant skip those
- 19:16 Telethar: you *could* have skipped those, but it's very questionable
- 19:16 Frostbite3030: if you skip those, you are making horrible decisions and will lose because of it sooner rather than later
- 19:16 Telethar: yeah
- 19:16 Telethar: I'm just saying here if you skipped those it would have made up the time difference, but that's kinda crazy
- 19:16 Frostbite3030: and than the second type is the full clear that takes 155 if you dont fuck it up
- 19:16 Frostbite3030: IMpossible to skip hera basement imo, its a horrible decision to lose a race early
- 19:16 Frostbite3030: same with spike cave
- 19:17 Frostbite3030: left side swamp was pretty late, i thought about skipping it
- 19:17 Frostbite3030: but i was missing like 4-5 things still
- 19:17 Telethar: yeah I agree, mode is kinda just "efficiently full clear"
- 19:17 Telethar: not much more to it, if you don't want to play that specific game then it certainly sucks
- 19:17 Frostbite3030: YOu might win a couple races skipping things, but it will kill you fast in this mode, too many required itmes
- 19:18 Frostbite3030: The biggest time save in this seed
- 19:18 Frostbite3030: going to aginas cave early, which i thought about
- 19:18 Frostbite3030: but could have saved at least 2-3 minutes early, no dip into mire
- 19:18 Frostbite3030: ep i mean lol
- 19:19 Telethar: yeah ep dip is unfortunate. My early game was
- 19:19 Frostbite3030: also no double mountain climb for just spec rock
- 19:19 Telethar: kak -> dam -> mmc -> houlihan -> irc -> zora -> desert -> aginah -> dw
- 19:19 Frostbite3030: after mmc
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: i went to ep
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: because it was like 6 checks there vs 3 checks in the rest of the game
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: but i never pick right so if you were wathcing me you know that shit aint in ep lol
- 19:20 Telethar: book + bk seemed very sus to me
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: I had no book
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: it was in ice rod caver
- 19:20 Telethar: ah yeah
- 19:20 Frostbite3030: i had ice rod cave, agina, speck rock and the ep checks
- 19:21 Telethar: yeah so I did houlihan so I could do IRC -> zora
- 19:21 Telethar: and you did saha + ep instead
- 19:21 Telethar: makes sense on both choices tbh, one was just wrong. rando be rando
- 19:21 Telethar: well both were wrong, but one was more wrong
- 19:22 Frostbite3030: meh, you want to play on wednesday? Honestly how im feeling even if i get to ganon first i might just stand there, having zero fun playing this mode lol
- 19:22 Telethar: sorry you feel that way, don't blame you though. And yeah wednesday works for me more or less any time
- 19:23 Frostbite3030: same time
- 19:23 Frostbite3030: ?
- 19:23 Telethar: Sure
- 19:24 Frostbite3030: For me, the mode is boring, I thought I would really like it because i like keys, but my hot take is that starting boots make every seed boring because htere is little punshment for bad routing choices
- 19:25 Telethar: I'm a big fan of entrance + boots
- 19:26 Telethar: because not having boots sucks, but it does get pretty same-ey on a non-entrance seed otherwise
- 19:29 Frostbite3030: I much prefer entrance without boots
- 19:29 Frostbite3030: I like boots being an actual benefit to someone who finds them early
- 19:29 Frostbite3030: like where to draw the line, why not start with flute too because overworld travel is boring af and its not dangerous like in say z1r
- 19:31 Telethar: fair, I just think game is more fun with boots lol
- 14:16 Race result recorded by daaanty#0264
