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- 02:10 latebit: well, the vods will hopefully clear things up for both of us, because I was cursing myself from about the 35 minute mark on
- 02:11 Zethno: hopefully.
- 02:11 Zethno: you said you had boots at 35?
- 02:11 latebit: thereabouts, give or take a few minutes
- 02:11 latebit: after pod all I had was aginah, maaaaaybe hobo, and EP big key chest
- 02:11 Zethno: ~23 for me
- 02:12 Zethno: I did hobo+zora area before that
- 02:12 latebit: not sure why I hobo skipped, played way too aggressive
- 02:12 Zethno: I mean it worked
- 02:13 latebit: inexplicably
- 02:15 latebit: it was worse than I thought, 42 minutes
- 02:16 Zethno: so I had it for 20 minutes longer
- 02:16 latebit: this is going to make for an interesting review
- 02:16 Zethno: I'm so confused
- 02:18 latebit: when did you get mirror?
- 02:18 Zethno: where was it?
- 02:18 latebit: TT big key chest
- 02:18 Zethno: after POD
- 02:18 latebit: hm, thought that might have been it but no, you had full access to EDM way before me and there was pretty good stuff there
- 02:18 latebit: weird
- 02:19 Zethno: did you do the blacksmiths chain + cave 45 and everything down there?
- 02:20 latebit: yes but not until I was on the hunt for hookshot
- 02:21 Zethno: okay yeah same here. It's interesting at the 1:00 mark we were both in SW for our 4th crystal
- 02:21 Zethno: me getting grabbed by a wallmaster at the back was dumb and definitely lost a good bit of time
- 02:22 latebit: all I had left at actual go mode was the second item in mire and catfish
- 02:22 latebit: not counting tablets or TR for obvious reasons
- 02:22 Zethno: I had 1 item in SP + 2 items in IP and both items in mire + TR, tablets and spike cave :/
- 02:22 latebit: hmm
- 02:23 Zethno: I did a full go-mode IP
- 02:23 Zethno: ran right through
- 02:24 latebit: I wish I could say the same, but go mode IP doesn't feel a whole lot faster than regular for me unless I'm doing ice breaker
- 02:24 Zethno: it's not that much faster but it does save a bit of time
- 02:25 Zethno: hmm at ~50 minutes you were already done 3 dungeons and I wasn't.
- 02:25 Zethno: and at 1h we were both in SW
- 02:25 Zethno: it's interesting
- 02:25 latebit: route divergence and convergence in rando can be pretty fascinating yeah
- 02:25 Zethno: when you were doing EP again I was actually climbing aga
- 02:26 Zethno: oh wait nvmd
- 02:26 Zethno: you were in pod
- 02:27 latebit: which led me to hammer and a bunch of bait at hype cave/stumpy/dig game, yeah
- 02:27 latebit: silvers at dig game were nice but definitely not what I wanted to see at the time
- 02:27 Zethno: I didn't get silvers until I came back later with blacksmiths
- 02:29 latebit: the only thing I can figure is some of my cleanup routing might have been cleaner
- 02:29 latebit: but even that doesn't seem totally right since I had to do a few single checks followed by immediate s&q
- 02:29 Zethno: we hit go-mode iwthin like 1-2minutes of each other but you had already finished IP
- 02:29 Zethno: well "go-mode"
- 02:30 latebit: let's just not talk about that pyramid fairy
- 02:30 latebit: that was unbelievably rude
- 02:30 Zethno: I was thinking about it the entire time
- 02:30 Zethno: should have just done pyramid first - probably would have won lol
- 02:30 latebit: I put it out of my head and committed to left side, then started to panic after rando room
- 02:30 latebit: yeah that absolutely would have won it
- 02:30 latebit: that was huge
- 02:31 Zethno: with the key in hope I probably would have gone full right
- 02:31 Zethno: so GT would have been a lot faster + no double climb.dip
- 02:31 Zethno: bah. I still feel going to GT was the right choice though
- 02:31 Zethno: 5/22 chance
- 02:31 latebit: oh for sure, better than 3:1 odds
- 02:32 latebit: unless you feel super super behind that's the play
- 02:32 Zethno: did you do a mountain climb without anything more than gloves?
- 02:33 latebit: I couldn't even get up the mountain until I got my boots for the gloves in bonk rocks
- 02:33 Zethno: did you have mirror at that point though?
- 02:33 Zethno: when you did go
- 02:34 latebit: I did village first, then GYL/king's tomb/scouted bumper
- 02:34 latebit: and mirrored and headed up
- 02:34 Zethno: okay so I had an extra mountain climb. for nothing helpful. That definitely lost a good portion of time.
- 02:34 latebit: ahh
- 02:34 latebit: yeah waiting for EDM access was big, left side was pretty barren
- 02:35 Zethno: that probably caught up the boots difference honestly
- 02:35 Zethno: + me walking into a wallmaster at the back of SW
- 02:35 latebit: yuck
- 02:38 Zethno: I dont' know what else you checked but at the 1:05 mark we were both in SW looking for a fourth crystal.
- 02:38 latebit: let's see, from EDM I went to... superbunny and bonk chest in HS cave, then I think I went and poked in the front of hera just to see what was there, and also did spike cave out of logic?
- 02:38 latebit: then I think I just headed for SW from there
- 02:39 Zethno: I had already cleared up the mountain - also dipped front of hera and saw it was a basement and noped out
- 02:39 latebit: same, pendant hera basement is a no from me 99 times out of 100
- 02:40 latebit: I think I did the smith chain after SW, then decided to dip swamp since I was in the neighborhood
- 02:41 latebit: bad decision over a free IP but I probably would have gone back and done it anyway before trying pendant hera
- 02:41 Zethno: hmm I did smith chain after SW too but I went straight to hera
- 02:42 Zethno: you were on your way to GT when I was in IP though
- 02:43 latebit: that failed GT excursion only partially counts though
- 02:43 Zethno: yeah but somewhere along the way there I lost a dungeon
- 02:44 latebit: I need to go figure out dinner, definitely let me know if you find out what happened
- 02:45 Zethno: actually you finished the blacksmits as I finished SW. there was ~ a 5 min diference there
- 02:45 latebit: so the difference was already established by that point
- 02:45 latebit: was it the double DM climb?
- 02:45 Zethno: it looks like it was in the first hour. That's a lot harder to tell.
- 02:46 Zethno: but the double DM climb + the wallmaster probably did msot of it
- 02:46 Zethno: even though you had boots later
- 02:46 latebit: heck
- 02:46 Zethno: hard to tell much more than that because early game routing was so varied
- 02:47 latebit: I'll give it a study myself after dinner and see what I come up with
- 02:47 latebit: because yeah, early routing can be huge
- 02:47 Zethno: sure - I'll probably take another look too but shoot me a message on discord if you do figure it out
- 02:47 latebit: absolutely
- 02:47 Zethno: or if you want to discuss :P
- 02:48 latebit: ggs again, hope for a better seed tomorrow lol
- 02:48 Zethno: ggs and lets hope
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