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- 19:35 Cotigo: what was your collection?
- 19:35 Laggy: if you're fully awake and not tired/drunk you're probably pretty even with otter
- 19:35 Laggy: 160
- 19:35 Cotigo: maybe I scrolled past it I don't see it
- 19:35 Laggy: so i definitely largely won on execution
- 19:36 Laggy: my routing was 100% worse
- 19:36 Cotigo: A little amazed you didn't do EP tbh
- 19:36 Cotigo: Part of why I did EP immediately after south shore was the convo from last night about otter's race lol
- 19:36 Cotigo: thought that was more about sarashala
- 19:37 Laggy: that was sasha
- 19:38 Laggy: i think ep skip is always a respectable decision
- 19:38 Laggy: pendant made it better this game but i was like 'ehh no lamp logic yet idk'
- 19:38 Laggy: it was a gamble for sure
- 19:38 Cotigo: On bluered pendant so you know you don't necessarily need Bow for Armos though?
- 19:38 Laggy: yeah but two checks are lamp locked logically
- 19:38 Laggy: armos and the back
- 19:38 Laggy: so i was like, eh
- 19:38 Cotigo: True
- 19:39 Laggy: if i find lamp i'll eat the walking back in
- 19:39 Laggy: or just go to aga 1
- 19:39 Cotigo: yeah I maybe rush EP a lot more than I should, it usually doesn't pay off
- 19:39 Laggy: yeah exactly
- 19:39 Laggy: it's fair to do either way
- 19:39 Laggy: just bit me this time
- 19:39 Cotigo: Yeah
- 19:40 Laggy: rando would be kinda shit if it was always 'this is the obvious choice'
- 19:40 Cotigo: lol yeah fair enough
- 19:40 Cotigo: I just usually err on that especially if neither Kak nor South Shore coughed anything up
- 19:41 Laggy: yeah i just did back of escape after sasha
- 19:41 Laggy: then got nothing and was like 'fuck i guessed wrong'
- 19:41 Cotigo: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
- 19:41 Laggy: but committed to skipping ep and did aginah
- 19:41 Cotigo: gloves were there weren't they
- 19:41 Laggy: hoping to see lamp or something else
- 19:41 Laggy: yes
- 19:41 Cotigo: OK that makes a lot of sense
- 19:41 Cotigo: I follow now
- 19:41 Laggy: if sasha had absolutely nothing then yes pendant ep is the obvious play
- 19:41 Laggy: densest check area
- 19:41 Cotigo: Yeah
- 19:41 Laggy: but back of escape is always good and fast
- 19:42 Laggy: like hs, mitts, or hammer being there is my out
- 19:42 Cotigo: Yeah In fact with a bum sanc item it's pretty much guaranteed to be the same number of checks as EP isn't it?
- 19:43 Laggy: in logic, yes, roughly the same odds, 2-3 items
- 19:43 Cotigo: Either 3 guaranteed items in chests or 2 and a key and you do dark dark ross room
- 19:43 Cotigo: DCR not necessarily in logic, granted
- 19:43 Laggy: oh right and after I got fucked on back of escape + aginah I did water out of logic and zora (who WAS in logic) because i had the money at that point
- 19:43 Laggy: again, just committing to my ep skip
- 19:43 Laggy: didn't work out
- 19:43 Cotigo: Yeah
- 19:44 Cotigo: oh wow because of go mode flipps I never actually did NE hyrule
- 19:44 Laggy: yep
- 19:44 Cotigo: I take it nothing was there
- 19:44 Laggy: correct
- 19:44 Laggy: you got your lead there and I inched back slowly from execution and we synced up in tr
- 19:44 Laggy: you were about half a dungeon ahead
- 19:44 Laggy: and then your laser bridge murdered you
- 19:44 Cotigo: yeah that sounds right
- 19:44 Laggy: i also had silvers for ganon
- 19:45 Laggy: don't actually remember where lel
- 19:45 Cotigo: lol gauntlet chests?
- 19:45 Cotigo: I skipped
- 19:45 Laggy: no
- 19:45 Laggy: our gt was identical
- 19:45 Cotigo: it said silvers were in tower tho
- 19:45 Laggy: oh
- 19:45 Laggy: i didn't do gauntlet...
- 19:45 Laggy: wait
- 19:45 Laggy: what the fuck
- 19:45 Laggy: did you do FULL right?
- 19:46 Laggy: like you kept going?
- 19:46 Cotigo: Uh yeah
- 19:46 Laggy: oh LOL
- 19:46 Laggy: ok so your gt route was faster but
- 19:46 Cotigo: I got to bob's room, found key, left
- 19:46 Laggy: leftside had cape and silvers
- 19:46 Laggy: i mirrored after the right sk
- 19:46 Cotigo: Aaaaaah
- 19:46 Cotigo: ok that makes sense
- 19:46 Cotigo: hey though
- 19:46 Cotigo: thanks for helping me practice ganon lol
- 19:46 Laggy: yah
- 19:47 Laggy: everyone has to do it
- 19:47 Laggy: no one just picks up ms ganon naturally without practice
- 19:47 Cotigo: Phase 4 is so much easier with guaranteed doubles and occasional triples
- 19:47 Laggy: y
- 19:47 Laggy: it's also a rhythm so i find it pretty stress free
- 19:47 Laggy: whereas if you freeform it it can get kinda hectic
- 19:48 Cotigo: Yeah it really nails the timing down to a repetitive patterin
- 19:49 Cotigo: Phase 2 is such a fucker, too, because it really is not that hard with tempered
- 19:49 Cotigo: Getting spins in I was surprised I was in phase 3 already
- 19:49 Cotigo: BUT IF YOU ARE DOING MS GANON....
- 19:49 Cotigo: -_-
- 19:49 Cotigo: dick
- 19:52 Laggy: p2 is the hardest, kinda not close
- 19:52 Laggy: imo
- 19:52 Laggy: like p4 is the one that looks daunting when you don't know how to do it because of sheer length, but it's completely predictable
- 19:53 Laggy: that said uhh unless you're double spinning against the wall, tempered is def faster in p2 just slashing
- 19:53 Laggy: exception being when the firebirds come out and back in because you only have time for 1 attack anyway there
- 14:05 Race result recorded by Synack#9689