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- 04:03 Nugz#5359 has forfeited from the race.
- 04:03 Race finished in 1:57:43.9
- 04:04 NugzGG: ggs
- 04:04 armlx: ggs everyone, thanks for waiting on my sleepy dog to come back inside to start
- 04:04 Cotigo: ggs
- 04:04 Laggy: ggs
- 04:04 joshua: cheers, ggs
- 04:04 NugzGG: i feel like death so imma call it and finish when in a bit
- 04:04 Trinexx: yeah Laggy i can 100% see how an ice T skip happens here
- 04:04 Laggy: i was more pissed about spiral
- 04:05 Laggy: because i thought about and went 'eh, not today, let's just do hera'
- 04:05 armlx#7548 added a comment.
- 04:05 joshua: I nearly picked spike over spiral after getting the 2 in hera
- 04:05 Laggy: 'then spike we have cane'
- 04:05 Laggy: LEL
- 04:05 Trinexx: i was walking to spiral cave after hera dip 1
- 04:05 Laggy: i've asked people for opinions on spike vs spiral
- 04:05 Daken: GG!
- 04:05 Laggy: tend to favor spike
- 04:05 Cotigo: yeah I for some reason chose to skip basement and then finished up in spiral
- 04:06 Trinexx: in this case Spiral is the one harder to really route in with you have that choice
- 04:06 Daken: I skipped Hera on the first trip to DM, and then put it off where the only checks I had left were that, spike and cave 45.
- 04:06 Trinexx: so i lean towards it
- 04:06 armlx: Old Man -> Spec -> Spike -> S+Q -> East DM + Hera
- 04:06 Laggy: well, I was gonna hope it wasn't ether
- 04:06 joshua: I nearly LL'd fire rod - only had armos knights for green pendant left
- 04:06 Trinexx: plus i had hera basement still so i could have combo'd
- 04:06 Laggy: and just do it after tr if i had to
- 04:06 Laggy: but noooope
- 04:06 Laggy: ether ended up being the last thing
- 04:06 Daken: I even dipped PoD (including the out of logic checks with no bow) first.
- 04:06 Laggy: i think a fair number of people just do pod with the bottle before north dw
- 04:06 Laggy: it's a pretty defensible play
- 04:07 joshua: yeah, my antipathy of pendant EP made me do pod with no hook
- 04:07 joshua: tragedy
- 04:07 armlx: oof
- 04:07 Laggy: aga 1 without mearl before pendant ep
- 04:07 Cotigo: I hundo'd light world before going to Aga
- 04:07 Trinexx: yeah with hookshot i was doing VoO before pod
- 04:07 Laggy: that's a choice
- 04:07 Cotigo: lucky me
- 04:07 Laggy: i got to do the meme route
- 04:07 Trinexx: also that 300 loop on zora ledge felt bad
- 04:07 Daken: Luckily, after mitts I checked TR, did dark DM, checked MM, did DP, and went to IP...the rest followed from there
- 04:07 Laggy: sanc vortex -> irc to aginah
- 04:07 Daken: @Trinexx. Yes it did.
- 04:07 Laggy: yeah I did that too
- 04:08 Laggy: i think i've never jumped off that waterfall before
- 04:08 armlx: lol was about about to ask who else had to do another Zora lap
- 04:08 Cotigo: Then I went straight to VOO and said fuck everything else, then DM, then North DW, swamp, pod, hundo'd again to find mitts, DDM, IP, Go mode
- 04:08 Daken: With no bow...and wanting to save my potion for Blind to be safe, I definitely went straight to VOO as well
- 04:09 Trinexx: i actually almost bailed after front of TT because i legit forgot i had hammer
- 04:09 Daken: We got some mercy with the GT BK though
- 04:09 Trinexx: hadnt used it yet
- 04:09 Cotigo: Maximum clowning: Going up to Zora with 200 rupees, seeing the 300 on ledge, and doing two loops to get Zora's single arrow
- 04:09 Cotigo: feltbad.jpg
- 04:10 Cotigo: maybe it was 10 arrows. Felt like 1
- 04:10 Laggy: 4 of us just said we did that
- 04:10 Daken: I didn't have money for dig game...then I tried to do the arrow game and failed
- 04:10 Laggy: so i think it was the thing to do
- 04:10 Cotigo: oh i missed that
- 04:10 Daken: So I did the right thing. Comitted and kept trying until I got it.
- 04:10 armlx: skipping anything in LW this seed felt so bad
- 04:10 armlx: you just had to loop
- 04:10 joshua: I mean, I didn't do aginah until after DP
- 04:11 Daken: It's really hard for me to go to Aga early without mearl
- 04:11 Laggy: unless you have a very good reason it's pretty much never correct to
- 04:11 Cotigo: Yeah I wanted to rule out pocket mearl before Aga
- 04:11 Trinexx: will pearl still missing i didnt mind doing Aginah before pyramid even though it would have been better to just go aga first
- 04:11 Laggy: irc to aginah man
- 04:11 Laggy: that early flip made it possible
- 04:12 Cotigo: I forgot about that
- 04:12 Laggy: and in this case you got tempered so probably worth
- 04:12 NugzGG: i did everything except zora area before aga
- 04:12 Cotigo: I just did Dam->aginah then MMC->IRC
- 04:13 joshua: so, when should one have checked GYL?
- 04:13 joshua: I basically LL'd it
- 04:14 Trinexx: if you had mitts before GYL then you were kinda screwed
- 04:14 Trinexx: and just had to make a choice
- 04:14 joshua: yeah, I got mitts right after VoO
- 04:14 Cotigo: I did it once I had boots. Had SW and Bumper Ledge to check too, worked out nicely
- 04:14 Daken: Same here more or less
- 04:14 Cotigo: This was only really the play because I did not have mitts though, yes
- 04:15 Daken: Though I forgot I had flute when I checked catfish...and ran down to PoD
- 04:15 Daken: That seed wasn't particularly nice, but also not quite cursed
- 04:16 armlx: sounds like an average seed
- 04:16 armlx: 30-70% blessed, 30-70% cursed
- 04:16 armlx: I guess Pearl on Pyramid is probably more on the 60-40 in favor of cursed
- 04:17 Daken: It didn't make you do anything really rough execution wise, pearl on pyramid is annoying...but most people will close to LL it
- 04:17 Daken: Fire rod on GYL is meaner IMO
- 04:17 armlx: FR easily the worst spot in the seed
- 04:18 joshua: progression on GYL is rough unless you do aga and have a glove, hook, and mirror
- 04:18 armlx: just gotta big brain it like me, hookshot bad in Spike Cave, die, get mirror on East DM and decide to save Spike + Hera for later
- 04:18 joshua: then you just go counter clockwise and get it on the way to voo
- 04:19 armlx: at least this seed gave you the excuse of getting Boots + Mirror at the same time and having Catfish stranded to clean clear top
- 04:19 Daken: And 1/2 magic on Catfish at least made it feel like "well, that wasn't a complete waste"
- 04:19 Daken: OK, I have to go to bed.
- 04:20 Daken: Take care all!
- 04:20 armlx: gn, honestly same
- 04:20 joshua: cheers, have a great night all
