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- 12:32 RandoBot: Retropolis, here is your seed: https://ootrandomizer.com/seed/get?id=1770980
- 12:32 RandoBot: Please note that this seed is password protected. You will receive the password to start a file ingame as soon as the countdown starts.
- 12:32 RandoBot updated the race information.
- 12:32 RandoBot updated the race information.
- 12:35 KLO1313#4308 joins the race.
- 12:35 Jarekx123#7685 joins the race.
- 12:35 Retropolis: o/ good morning/afternoon/whatever
- 12:35 KLO1313: hi
- 12:35 Jarek: yo
- 12:38 Retropolis: so when I hit ready is when it's gonna give the password in this case?
- 12:38 Retropolis: in like the 15 seconds countdown
- 12:38 KLO1313: yep
- 12:39 KLO1313: sounds intimidating but 15 seconds is actually p lenient
- 12:39 Retropolis: Cool cool
- 12:39 Retropolis: yeah seems just fine
- 12:39 Retropolis: if it's only a handful of notes
- 12:39 KLO1313: if you haven't done one with a password before, once you've entered it will keep you on the "Yes/Quit" screen, so no mashing A or you'll start early
- 12:40 Retropolis: ah okay
- 12:40 KLO1313: coughZephcough
- 12:40 Retropolis: couldnt someone just spam a bunch of incorrect passwords until it works tho KEKW
- 12:40 KLO1313: nah, like an iPhone once you get a certain number of failures it has a cooldown, makes you wait 5-10 secs
- 12:41 Retropolis: ah okay
- 12:41 KLO1313: may be interesting to compare quals of S7 to S8... who knows
- 12:42 KLO1313: do we have a planned start time?
- 12:42 Zinedine: When I learn the settings
- 12:42 Retropolis: not necessarily, I guess :00 is fine
- 12:42 KLO1313: so starting Oct 10th, 11th, Zine?
- 12:43 Zinedine: You think I'm some kind of speed reader?
- 12:48 Retropolis#3399 is ready! (3 remaining)
- 12:50 Engel#2700 joins the race.
- 12:50 Fer#0856 joins the race.
- 12:52 Link___Hylian#4993 joins the race.
- 12:55 Jarekx123#7685 is ready! (5 remaining)
- 12:56 KLO1313: ok I'm sorted my sandwich is ready
- 12:57 KLO1313#4308 is ready! (4 remaining)
- 12:57 Zinedine#7130 is ready! (3 remaining)
- 12:57 Retropolis: GLHF all
- 12:57 KLO1313: glhfetc HashMirrorShield
- 12:57 Engel#2700 is ready! (2 remaining)
- 12:57 Fer: glhf
- 12:57 Fer#0856 is ready! (1 remaining)
- 12:58 Jarek: glhf HashCucco
- 13:00 Link___Hylian: glhf
- 13:00 Link___Hylian#4993 is ready! (0 remaining)
- 13:00 Retropolis#3399 has initiated the race. The race will begin in 15 seconds!
- 13:00 RandoBot updated the race information.
- 13:00 RandoBot: This seed is password protected. To start a file, enter this password on the file select screen:
NoteA NoteCdown NoteA NoteCdown NoteCleft NoteCup
You are allowed to enter the password before the race starts.
- 13:00 The race has begun! Good luck and have fun.
- 14:33 Zinedine#7130 has forfeited from the race.
- 15:32 Fer#0856 has finished in 1st place with a time of 2:31:52!
- 15:33 Engel#2700 has finished in 2nd place with a time of 2:32:40!
- 15:38 Retropolis#3399 has finished in 3rd place with a time of 2:37:47!
- 15:43 Retropolis#3399 added a comment.
- 15:46 Jarekx123#7685 has finished in 4th place with a time of 2:45:05!
- 15:46 Link___Hylian#4993 has forfeited from the race.
- 15:54 KLO1313#4308 has forfeited from the race.
- 15:54 Race finished in 2:53:37.8
- 15:57 Engel#2700 added a comment.
- 16:04 KLO1313: so, you've got two conditions to win here - the bridge and the boss key for ganon's.
- 16:05 KLO1313: the rando generator will make two big lists of items it can hint as path - one for each condition. one for every item required for the bridge, and then one for every item required for the GBK. each item will only be on one of those paths
- 16:06 KLO1313: since lights are a bridge condition, it means that only the items NOT required to get into deep shadow can be on the GBK list
- 16:07 Retropolis: This is the worst kind of path prio shenanigans in a seed
- 16:07 Engel: oh I see it now
- 16:07 KLO1313: which means the only hintable items on that list are the ones for morpha. there is no path to bongo or path to gohma or path to PG because the bridge path eats them all
- 16:07 Engel: that is... a choice to make the hints like that
- 16:08 Engel#2700 changed their comment.
- 16:08 Retropolis: Yeah OK Shadow had Lights, but Din's was just wherever KEKW. Meanwhile you get double LS
- 16:08 KLO1313: don't speak like that, engel. every time I've mentioned that it's convoluted and complicated for new players to get their head around logic that isn't related to the game at all I get told "just don't read the hints", "go play crystal so you can get casinoed every seed" "you're being a jerk"
- 16:08 Retropolis: Would be nice if it didn't spam Morpha 3x and instead gave 2x for Evil's Bane
- 16:09 Engel: haha thanks for the explanation klo
- 16:09 KLO1313: np
- 16:10 Retropolis: Does the generator still work to where it will spam hints for the later goals?
- 16:10 Retropolis: Reminds me of Tower hints.
- 16:11 KLO1313: no, it'll pick one for every existing condition and then randomly choose
- 16:11 Retropolis: Ah okay
- 16:11 KLO1313: in this case there's only three conditions (KD which only has one item, evil's bane and morpha). and it's just bad luck of the draw that it went for morpha three times
- 16:12 Retropolis: I dunno about you guys but I rushed Ice so the double path for Ice was pretty monkaS
- 16:12 KLO1313: I did not lol, I tend not to when jabu's a stone
- 16:12 KLO1313: so by the time I knew there were no bongo paths I'd already done everything I could have skipped, except saria's checks
- 16:13 Retropolis: Makes sense
- 16:13 KLO1313: honestly, the thing I'm looking forward to the most in S8 is listening to the commentators trying to explain path priority in every single stream
- 16:13 Retropolis: KEKW
- 16:13 KLO1313: "hey new viewers, please go read this PDF so you can understand the stream"
- 16:14 Retropolis: I knew exactly what was going on but it's still a casino besides RL, LS and Irons not having your din's
- 16:14 Retropolis: Which didnt amount to much in this seed
- 16:14 Engel: imagine just not putting LAs as part of your bridge con :)
- 16:15 Engel: but yeah I wasted time finding the last path hint which wasn't needed
- 16:16 Retropolis: Did you get your third Morpha KEKW
- 16:16 Retropolis: From that hunt
- 16:17 Engel: yeah I got all 3
- 16:17 Retropolis: I think I found my Ice path to Morpha before Colossus KEKW
- 16:18 Retropolis: So that Colossus hint was a total toss
- 16:19 Retropolis: But yeah, sometimes path prio is interesting, but this is one of the less stellar examples of how it can work out
- 08:26 Race result recorded by Oakishi#2236